Dr Lemmon's Interview With 4-Time Cancer Survivor and Best-Selling Author Danny Carroll.

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Transcript From a Jaw-Dropping Interview With 4-Time Cancer Survivor and Best-Selling Author Danny Carroll. 

 Dr David Lemmon- Welcome to the Natural Cancer Support Channel. I'm Dr. David Lemmon, and I'm really excited about our guest today Danny Carroll. And Danny is the best selling author of Terminal Cancer is a Misdiagnosis. It's won a lot of awards, the 2023 Global Book Award.  And many bestseller awards on Amazon it's available on Amazon and Audible and  he has a personal cancer story as well as we're going to be learning about a modality that connects.

The emotional pathway, spiritual pathway, energetic pathway, physical pathway, all together out of the seven pathways of healing. So I'm really excited to dive in and learn more about Danny Carroll. So welcome, Danny. 

Danny Carroll- Thank you, doctor. It's an absolute pleasure to be here. 

 Dr David Lemmon- So let's just dive right in. I'd love to hear more about your story about your cancer diagnosis, what you did diving down the path , to help your own cancer story and then how you met and discovered the work of Dr. Hamer 

Danny Carroll- Okay. So where do we start? Okay. Let's start at the beginning. We go back to 2004. So  my full time residence is in Bombay in India. I've lived in India and now in my, just about to start my 29th year of living in India. So this is home for me. In 2004, I had a friend. a close friend who was diagnosed with cancer.

I don't remember exactly which type of cancer she had, but she couldn't afford the cancer treatment. And in India if you can't afford medical care, then you're out of luck. You can, you can drop dead in the streets and people will step out of your there's, very little value for life here. So I ran a marathon And I raised a lot of money for my friend's treatment, which she was delighted with.

When she went into the hospital they said she had cancer.  She had no visible signs of, of sickness or illness. I mean, she wasn't in pain and she looked perfectly healthy from the outside, but I said she had cancer. When she started the chemotherapy treatments, she would message me from the hospital saying, Danny, I don't know what these doctors are doing, but it feels like they're putting poison in my veins.

At the time I knew no better. So I strongly encouraged her to continue the cancer treatments. In fact, one could argue that I I forced her to basically and within three, three rounds of chemo, she died. I mean, I was devastated at the time. I still am in many ways. I mean, I both funded her treatment.

I forced her to take it and it ended very badly. So at that time, I would have been in my early thirties at the time. I swore to myself that I would search to the ends of the earth to find a better solution to the problem we call cancer. And that's where the journey started between 2004 and 2012, when I found Germanic healing knowledge.

 I studied many modalities. I studied nutritional healing. I studied the Bach flower remedies. I practiced with Bach for many years and I still use Bach. It has some really super tools in the kit. I studied energy healing. I studied spirituality. I mean, I studied anything that had the promise of a solution to the problem called cancer.

In 2012. This is whilst I was in the middle of all of those modalities. I had a significant health challenge. My entire body was riddled with golf ball sized knots  in my calf muscles, my thighs, my arms, my back. I was in physio for six months and I would go into physio and I don't know whether you've ever experienced this, but to remove knots from your muscles the physio uses their elbows and they put their body weight on your muscles to iron out the knots.

Okay. So excruciatingly painful. All your muscles bruise up and everything. And I go back two days later and the knots they'd ironed out. We'll come back again. So I was on this  excruciatingly painful merry go round for a six month period. And with all, all of the healing modalities, whether it was Bach or nutritional healing I mean, there was, I couldn't find a solution to the problem.

And  it was at a point in my life, doctor, where I had a very interesting challenge. I split up from my ex wife in 2011 and I had a new life partner who happened to be an American diplomat, okay? Now, her next posting after that, they do like two, two to three years in each location. Her, so after she left Bombay, her next posting was in Santiago de Chile.

So obviously nobody has a long distance relationship between South America and India. So we had agreed that when she left, that we would terminate our relationship and go our own separate ways. Problem was we met a few days before she was due to leave. And the problem was that Because there was no expectations of commitment or longevity in a relationship we become soulmates, right?

I mean, so when it came to leaving, we were unable to, to terminate the relationship. So we basically sat on a Friday evening, And we said, okay, this is not working very well. It looks like we are doomed to at least try a ridiculous, the most ridiculous long distance relationship in history, which is basically a 40 hour journey.

And And, and we said let's see if it just fizzles out. And I woke up on Saturday morning, and all of the knots that had riddled my body. I mean, normally at that point I was running ultra marathons, and I could barely walk in this six month period, let alone run. And when I woke up on Saturday morning, Doctor, all of the knots that had riddled my body for six months, it just disappeared.

And I woke up and all of the knots had gone. At the time, I didn't know why the knots came and I didn't know why they'd, why they'd gone. All I knew was that the only difference between Friday night and Saturday morning was basically agreeing with my then girlfriend and now wife that we would not prematurely terminate our relationship.

And the, the, the knots just disappeared overnight. So what I plan to do is I plan to do what I had learned from that was basically the power of the mind and the effects that it can have on the body to both cripple you, as well as to give you back your health. So I was planning to do a PhD.

And I was looking for a university that had both a medical specialization and a psychology specialization. And what I was planning to do was to build a bridge between those two modalities, so I could study the mind-body connection within, within a suitable environment. And in the process of looking for that, a university, which is very difficult because nobody does both of those things.

 I found Dr. Hamer. Who was reported to have a 92 percent success rate in healing terminally or cancer patients using a form of mind, body medicine. Okay, at that point in time, it was known as Germanic new medicine. Dr. Hamer changed that to Germanic Healing Knowledge. That's another long story.

So that's basically where I, that's where I started. So I found Dr. Hamer in 2012. So I'm 12 years in. On my cancer journey, I've had lung cancer with a collapsed lung, fully collapsed lung. I've had testicular cancer. I've had jaw cancer. I've had cancer in my shoulder and my left arm.

I think I've got like five melanomas on my back So I've had many forms of cancer and Yeah, my lung my lung actually collapsed in 2000, testicular cancer I had in 2017, jaw cancer I had in 2019, bone cancer in my arm I had in 2021, Melanoma is on my back.

I've probably had it for 10 years, but I keep adding to them. So yeah.  So at that point, were you still in the middle of kind of developing and researching all of this cancer knowledge, or had you come to the realization that Germanic new medicine was the kind of , the best of the, the best of the treatments that you'd studied, or were you still working on the holistic pathways of diet and herbs and homeopathy and things like that?

But I still, I, let me make it clear, I still, I still, I still use Bach. I still follow many of the tenets of nutritional healing. I have a cold pressed juicer that I have beautiful fresh, fresh juice every day. So certain, a certain, certain of the best elements of each of the modalities I retain.

I started studying Germanic healing knowledge in 2012 my, my view of the world really changed. I think in 2015, when I took my formal training in Germanic healing knowledge. So I had to go to Toronto to complete my training in Germanic Healing knowledge and one of Dr.

Hamer's many extraordinary discoveries is that basically from a brain CT scan without contrast, you can read somebody's entire life history. Okay, everything, what diseases you've suffered, what's past and what's current. Yeah, basically, Dr. Hamer left behind a body of knowledge where you can tell somebody's entire life story from a brain CT scan.

So, when I went out for my formal training, Toronto was my one to start to learn to read brain CTs. One of the opportunities that you were given is to get your brain CT done and give it to the teacher. And she will read your brain CT scan. So I gave mine and her first comments were to me, she said, Oh, I see that you've had lung cancer in your left lung. 

And you currently have testicular cancer in your left testicle. And your left testicle is smaller than your right testicle. Okay. And I'm like, Okay,  that's amazing. How did you know that? Oh, yeah, by the way, my lung fully collapsed in 2000, my left lung fully collapsed in 2000. At the time it was diagnosed, because there was no lung right, so it was diagnosed at the time as a spontaneous pneumothorax.

Then, the doctor said to me, oh yeah, Danny, your lung had a bad day, spontaneously exploded and collapsed, which I really never found as a Compelling explanation. Bad day. Yeah, I just had a bad day and exploded. Right, okay, yeah, okay, that sounds convincing, right? But she said no, you had to, and she helped me to piece it together, which actually happened when I was studying at the London School of Economics.

In the early nineties my then fiance in the UK basically got pregnant and she didn't want to put pressure on me because I was always already under a lot of pressure studying at LSE. So she got pregnant and she decided to abort the child. Without telling me or consulting me the relationship ended a couple of years later, and when the relationship ended, basically, she told me, oh, yeah, by the way, when you started LSE, I got pregnant, and I aborted your child.

Now, according to Dr. Hamer, lung cancer of the alveoli is caused by a fear of death. A death fright conflict, and it can be for yourself or for somebody else. So  the death fright conflict for the aborted child basically triggered lung cancer in my left lung. And it also simultaneously triggered testicular cancer in my left testicle.

Because that's, that's basically caused by a loss conflict and particularly a loss conflict for, for a child or for a loved one. So yeah, that one, that one trauma basically triggered two types of cancer that nearly killed me. I should have died and I didn't. It took me six hours to get me into ICU when my lung collapsed.

By the time they got me into ICU, my heart and my functioning right lung, my right lung was somewhere around my back and my, my heart was under my right arm, because as you continue to breathe, it puts pressure in the lung cavity and pushes the internal organs around to the, to the side. So. I should have died for that, but I didn't, so maybe I'm here for a purpose.

Definitely. So yeah but I think, let me, let me share, let me share my, my jaw cancer. Because that's a strange and fascinating story. This is in 2019. I got cancer in my jaw. Which all of these teeth are false. All of my teeth fell out on the Left side of my mouth. Now this I, this took me some time to work out for a number of reasons.

Number one, the trauma that triggered this basically was a five second argument with my wife. Um, this particular cancer program in the jaw takes a few days for you to start feeling the pain. And this particular part of the jaw has what we call all free germ layers endoderm, mesoderm and ectoderm germ layers.

So the pain could be caused by a problem that just started, or it could be caused by a problem that you've just solved. So I had to go through this huge process of elimination. in order to try and find out what caused this problem. I said it was a five second argument with my wife, which made it even more difficult to find.

It took me about a month to find it, by which time I had a huge growth on my jaw. And when this particular program in the jaw the, the, the tissue is added to the tumor, what they call it and then the tissue is removed by something known as tuberculosis mycobacteria. And what the TB mycobacteria basically does is it rots the, it rots the added tissue to remove it.

So I had the, I had for, for about four months after that, I had to taste and smell rotting flesh in my, in my mouth and in my sinuses for about a four month period. Mm-Hmm. And between the tumor and the TB mycobacteria all my teeth fell out on this side of my jaw and my. it partially destroyed my jaw.

So I had to have a, I had to have a five hour reconstructive surgery to have my jaw rebuilt and have implants put in to replace my teeth. Okay. So firstly, when I found a doctor, again, many of Dr. Hamer's extraordinary medical discoveries, when I found the cause of the cancer, the fight with my wife And I could switch the cancer off.

So basically the pain that I had when I found the cause, basically I switched, I switched that program off like a light switch. The pain stopped immediately  when I identified the cause of the problem. What Dr. Hamer discovered that it is the emotional trauma that triggers a problem to start.

It's the same. So it's like a light switch, right? The same light switch switches it on, switches it off. The same trauma that switches it on, switches it off. So finding, connecting the problem that's caused. The biological program to start running is critical because it's the key to switching it off.

So I switched it off then went through the process of the TB mycobacteria, removing the growth and my teeth and my jaw, half of my jaw. So when I, then I then had a five hour reconstructive surgery with a bone graft on my jaw and the implants put in to have my teeth replaced because I have no teeth right.

Now, I have a personal dislike for taking any form of medication. So I hate taking painkillers, right? So anyway, I had a five hour surgery, right? I took a painkiller and I've got a lot of drills in my jaw and a bone graft and 35 stitches and whatever, all the things, right? So I took a painkiller, in the surgery.

And then I took one more painkiller at nighttime before I, before I slept. And then I woke up the next morning, of course, there was a boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, like this, right on my jaw. So I'm sitting there and I'm thinking to myself, I switched off pain from, from many biological pride, BS and, And cancer and, and various different healing programs.

Right. So I thought to myself, I wonder if I can switch this pain off. I'd never switched off pain that had been triggered by physical trauma, not emotional trauma. Okay. This drill was in your jaw, right? So it's real. So I thought to myself, okay, I wonder if I can switch this pain off so I don't have to take the painkillers.

Right. So, I'm sitting there and I'm thinking to myself, okay Danny, what is the biological purpose of pain? Pain has a biological purpose, right? Biological purpose of pain is to stop you from using a part of your body so that it has the time, space and energy to heal, okay? If you cut your finger, okay, the first thing it'll do is swell up.

If you don't touch it, It won't hurt,  right? As soon as you then start trying to use it, you put it into the, you know, washing the dishes or something or doing the vacuuming or something. As soon as you start using it, then it ba dum, ba dum, ba dum. Nature's saying to you, this is broken. Stop using it. If you stop using it, I won't give you pain.

If you start using it, you get the pain. So don't use it. Okay, that's what the biological purpose of pain is. So I'm sitting here and I'm thinking, okay, I've got no teeth, right? And all of these, this entire side of this, all the teeth fell out, right? So I'm sitting there thinking, okay, I can't chew on this side.

I wonder if I can switch this pain off. So I sat there and I. You have to have this discussion with your subconscious mind, right? All of these biological programs run in your subconscious mind and not in your conscious mind, right? But you can use your conscious mind to manipulate those biological programs in your subconscious mind.

It's amazing, right? So I'm sitting there and I say, okay, subconscious mind I know I've got pain in my jaw and I know the purpose of the pain is to stop me using my jaw so that it has the time, space and energy to heal. Okay, I have no teeth. I'm not going to use this side of my jaw. Because I have no teeth, right?

Please switch off to pain. Bang, gone. And I'm like,  wow, that's amazing, right? And then what happened, doctor, is, you know, you're actually, you're chewing, right? You're trying to chew on this side, right? So you don't get anything on this side. And invariably, some accidents happen, right? So food will accidentally go around this side.

And then as soon as the food goes around that side, it's like, okay, because you can't use it, right? The deal is don't use it and you won't have pain, right? Okay. Food goes around that side. Okay, you broke the deal. And I'm like, oh no, and then ba dum, ba dum, ba dum, ba dum. And I'm like, okay, subconscious mind, I'm sorry, that was a mistake.

Right? Let's go back to the other deal. We'll go back to the old deal. I won't use this side of my mouth. I'll give it a time to basically leave your heels. Please switch off to pain. Bang. Pain gone. Right? I had a five hour surgery, 35 stitches, bone graft implants in my jaw. I slept for three weeks. For between 20 and 22 hours a day,  right?

I went, I went back to, I went back to the doctor at the end of three weeks. Okay. And he was cursing me, right? I would not take any antibiotics. I would not take any painkillers, right? He's like, he's like, you're mad. I'm like, I know. I went back after three weeks, right? Sleeping 20, 22 hours a day for three weeks to have the stitches removed.

And when I went back, it was fully healed. 

Dr David Lemmon- I think for our viewers, we need to go back a little bit to kind of the origin story of Dr. Hamer. So my understanding so far is he was a German conventional cancer doctor in the, maybe the 60s and 70s is when he was practicing conventionally. 

Then he had a significant trauma with the loss of his son. His Son passed away suddenly and then a few, six months, maybe later , he was diagnosed with testicular cancer and he started going through some of his old patient records and discovered this pattern of emotional traumas. In his previous patients and then developed more and more of this connection between these massive emotional traumas and the physical manifestation of cancer.

Is that correct? 

Danny Carroll- Let me try and give you  a short version, but with the detailed specifics in 1978, Dr. Hamer was a traditional medical doctor but he was an internist, okay, which , in medical terms, basically it was a, it was a medical researcher, right?

So in 1978, he was the head of a cancer research unit. It was a gynecological oncology cancer research unit, which is a part of Tübingen University, which is obviously in Germany. So in 78, his 19 year old son, Dirk, was shot and murdered,  okay, by an Italian crown prince. Another long story.

Two months after Dirk died. Dr. Hamer was diagnosed with  an aggressive, rare form of testicular cancer with metastasis to the stomach. Okay. Now,  at the time, he didn't know whether there was a causal link, but he was in his late 40s. Otherwise, he was a healthy guy. All of a sudden, his son gets murdered and he gets an aggressive rare cancer on a reproductive organ.

Okay. He was given a 1 percent chance to survive. He survived because he had surgery, but he refused chemotherapy and radiation. Okay. In his later years, he said if he knew then what he knew now he wouldn't, he wouldn't have had the surgery because  as the, as the head of, of the Gynecological Oncology Cancer Research Unit, he was working with 200 female patients.

Cancer patients, terminally ill cancer patients as part of the cancer research program.  And he started interviewing women to find out how many of them had experienced emotional trauma before they got cancer. And out of 200, 200 had. Okay. And when he started putting the cancer patients into different categories of cancer type, cervical cancer, uterine cancer, mammary gland, breast cancer, introductive breast cancer, obviously these female reproductive organs, because he was, it was a gynecological oncology unit.

Okay. What he started observing is that women had the same type of  cancer. suffered the same type of trauma. So, for example, the women that had ovarian cancer  had all suffered from some type of profound loss. In the same way he suffered a profound loss when he got testicular cancer and in and fast forward 39 years of research with over 50, 000 working directly with over 50, 000 cancer patients and what Dr.

Hamer discovered that basically every change in our biology from a runny nose to a sore throat to a testicular cancer to a breast cancer are basically Today considered to be a disease. They are not a disease. They are part of a survival biological program. In his case, his son was murdered. Now, what he discovered is that the tumor that came on his testicle basically had a biological purpose and a biological function.

Okay, the tumor that came on his testicle, the biological purpose of that tumor, basically to increase his testosterone levels and to increase his sperm production, in order to increase his capacity to give him a better chance to get his wife pregnant. to be able to replace the child he's just lost.

Okay, so his son was murdered, he got testicular cancer. The purpose of that was to increase his ability to get his wife pregnant. And if he'd had known at the time that if he had got his wife pregnant, the purpose of that biological program would have been achieved. And basically the same way his subconscious mind switched that biological program on in order to increase his capacity to be able to get his wife pregnant.

If he had got his wife pregnant and he basically fulfilled the purpose of that biological program, basically that program would have switched off. And then the extra capacity that was added to his testicles would have been removed through the liver, pushed out through the system and removed naturally in the same way that it came naturally.

Okay. And, when he started studying these women, these 200 women he was working with, patterns started to emerge that the ovary in a woman is very, when, when we get the X and Y at birth, whether it becomes a man or a woman. If it's a man, it becomes a testicle. If it's  a woman, it becomes an ovary.

They perform very similar functions from a reproductive perspective. Okay. So in a woman  the ovarian cancer depends on you catching it on ovarian cyst, if it's gone past its nine month growth period, basically the biological purpose of the ovarian cancer is the same. It's basically designed when a woman, when she goes for a profound loss, resolves that conflict, basically it will trigger an ovarian cancer program.

That ovarian cancer program runs for exactly nine months and then it stops. Okay. and becomes an indurated cyst. So it depends on which part of the development process they find it. That indurated cyst is designed to produce estrogen and that indurated cyst will keep a woman looking 15 or 20 years younger.

younger than her age and very fertile, because the purpose of that ovarian indurated cyst basically is to make a woman look more beautiful and make her look more attractive to the opposite sex so she can replace the partner. that she's just lost, or the child that she's just lost. And when you start looking, when you start, when you go through Dr.

Hamer's body of work, and you start understanding  the biological purpose for all of these cancers, I mean, it's just truly mind blowing, doctor, truly mind blowing. That's amazing. So do you, do you see it as more of a metaphorical kind of, psychic connection that the subconscious is seeing these symbolic connections to the biological trauma that's happened and this is kind of a symbolic thing or is it more of a A truly physical manifestation of that trauma.

Somebody, somebody wrote a comment on my book on Amazon. Basically saying if we look at a tree. Okay. If a tree is rubbing on a fence. Okay. What will happen is the bark will become thicker. Okay. And why did it, why does it become thicker? It becomes thicker to protect the tree against the fence.

if you go into a woodland, okay, and you see the trees in a woodland, they'll grow thin shoots that go up to the sky. Why? Because if there's a, if there's a cover in, in the woodland, unless the tree gets up to sunlight, it won't survive, right? So when we see these things in nature, we recognize that that is nature trying to survive, in the unique situation in that environment. Okay? Now, what Dr. Hamer discovered is that every change in our biology, basically, is there. Nature wants us to survive. All of these changes in our biology, whether it's testicular cancer or breast cancer, basically are there as part of a survival biological program.

Okay. In Dr. Hamer's case, basically, his testicle started increasing in size and nature was increasing his testosterone and sperm. production levels. Why? Because his son was just murdered. So from a survival perspective, he now has to replace the progeny. And what nature has done is saying, okay, I'm going to increase your capacity to produce sperm and testosterone so you can, so that you can replace that child.

And once you've done that, Then we'll put it back to normal again. Okay, if you, if you look at something like mammary gland breast cancer, okay, mammary gland breast cancer is caused by what Dr. Hamer described as a nest conflict. Now, all of these things, you just look at the biological function of an organ and you can pretty much guess the biological purpose of a cancer.

Right? A mammary gland, what is it designed to do? It's designed to produce milk, right? Why do you need to produce milk? Because you have, you have a child to feed. Now, at the moment, the mammary gland only, in our understanding, only gets activated when you're pregnant or when you're nursing. Okay? But that's not, that's not nature's design.

Nature's in, you know, in our Pre modern, modern civilized society, the only tool a woman had, if she had a sick loved one, you know, a parent, a child, or whatever in the house, the only tool she's got to be able to nurse a sick loved one is her breast. Okay, so what happens, imagine the situation where a woman is walking down the street, she's got a five year old child, so she's no longer lactating, right, child.

Pulls away, runs into the road and gets hit by a car, okay? Child's, she, mother just hears the screeching tires and then sees the child laying on the ground in the road, okay? In that split second, now what does she have? She has a sick child, right? That she needs to get that child back to health again. What is nature's system for getting a child back to health again?

It's the breast. You can nurse somebody back to health, right? So basically, as soon as a child gets hit by a car, The woman will immediately start to feel a lump in her breast, okay? What is, what is happening, okay? What has nature done? Nature has reactivated her mammary glands, so that she can produce milk, so that she can offer a breast to the child, to be able to nurse the child back to health again.

And when the child's healthy again, basically that mammary gland will get switched off again. And what do we call that? What is mammary gland cancer? Lobular carcinoma, all of the terms, right? Basically, all it is, is nature increasing a woman's capacity to be able to, she's not lactating, right?

A child's five years old. So basically what nature does is it re triggers the ability for a woman to lactate, so she can offer her breast to the child, so she can nurse the child back to health again. When the child comes back to health again, basically the child's well, okay? The mother then basically the, Cancer in the breast, in the mammary gland will switch off.

She will be tired. She will sleep for a month. The TB mycobacteria will remove that extra capacity out of the breast. And basically she, if she understands how this process works, then she can easily nurse herself through that process and come back to full health again. And this is nature's design and it's extraordinary.

But in today's society, it sounds insane. Because we're so far away from nature's design. And what Dr. Hamer discovered is that human beings, animals, and plants are all wired exactly the same way. And we can look at nature and we can recognize the survival function in nature, but we can't look at ourselves and do it.

And that's the problem. 

Dr David Lemmon- So did Dr. Hammer kind of complete his body of work in regard to cancer as far as chronic leukemia and acute leukemia and different biological causes for that? Or did he pass away in the middle of his research and work on that? How did that go? 

Danny Carroll- They completed everything, doctor. Everything. I mean, you take, you take leukemia and give it whatever name you like, right? But basically what is leukemia? There's no such thing as blood cancer, right? In fact, there's no such thing as any cancer. Nature in our lifetime will never make a single mistake, right? It knows what it's doing.

We don't know what it's doing. Right? But leukemia. What is leukemia when you become depressed? Okay, go for a period of depression. Basically, what happens is you get micro ulceration in the bones and in the bone marrow. Okay. Now, when you come out of that depression, you know, I'm a bad father, I'm a bad husband, I'm a bad wife, I'm a bad, bad mother, a bad whatever, right?

When you turn that corner, you say, Oh, maybe I'm not so bad. Okay. And you start pulling out of that depression. Basically the bones need to heal. Okay. Now the bone heals with immature blasts of white blood cells. And immature blasts of red blood cells. Basically, this is just a bone marrow healing in, in the bone.

Okay, those immature blasts of both white and red blood cells are completely harmless, right? And go to the doctor and say, Oh, your white blood cell counts 100, 000. But there's absolutely nothing. There's nothing. Oh, you'll feel tired. You'll you'll you'll be sleeping all the time You'll feel you'll feel horrible right But you sleep your way through that and basically if we need it all you need is a lot of rest and a high protein diet I ideally animal protein diet, . But  based on your blood group, you need the appropriate nutrition. That's required to give your body the building blocks it needs in order to be able to rebuild those bones. I mean, there's no such thing as blood cancer yet. It's just part of the misunderstanding of nature's design, which in terms of where we've, where we've got to at this point in time.

And when you understand what causes a problem, the biological purpose of a problem and the steps you have to go through in order to successfully heal from a problem, then there's no fear. I mean,  I live in a world where there's no such thing as disease, right? I mean, it's the most beautiful, amazing, heavenly place to live on this earth.

And I strongly encourage everybody to, to come and, come and join me, right? It takes a little bit of work to get there. So if you have these connections, you have blood, blood cancer, leukemia as the label for it. There's White blood cells are increasingly connected to depression, kind of the  reproductive organs of ovaries and testicles related to loss. Often loss of a child makes sense with that connection to progeny breasts.

has that connection to nourishing, nursing back to health. So if you have that connection, that awareness, what's the next step? Is there anything specific about the actual treatment modalities? Are there any other treatment modalities connected to it, or is it just that awareness itself that switches off that switch?

You have to do some work I'm afraid. I mean, the best solution to any problem is a real life resolution of the conflict. Okay, so if your child got hit by a car and ended up in the road, and it triggered a conflict. mammary gland, you know, cancer or biological program. The best thing to always do is to understand that biological program and to follow the tenets of that biological program.

So use your breast to nurse the child or to nurse the father or whoever it is back to health again, because that's nature's design. Right. But what Dr. Hamer also discovered, which is what I used in my jaw, is that the on switch is also the off switch. Okay, so when, when you consciously connect the cause of a problem with the symptoms of the problem.

So I say to myself, okay, I know I've got cancer in my jaw.  This was a fight over American politics, by the way. I know I've got cancer in my jaw because I had a fight with my wife and she screamed at me and she never screams at me. Basically by connecting the cause of the problem with the symptoms of the problem, basically it will switch that biological program off and it will trigger a cathartic healing process.

Okay, now I can sit here and explain. cathartic healing until I'm blue in the face. But basically until you experience it you can, you would never really appreciate it. In the same way, this, this, this pain I had from this surgery, basically, what did I do? I switched the pain off, right? I went after a five hour surgery.

I slept for three weeks with zero pain. Okay. I mean, I have a reasonably high pain threshold, but it's no way I'm going through three weeks after a five hour reconstructive surgery about, you know, just bearing the pain, right? I didn't bear any pain. I switched the pain off. I switched the pain off because I could connect the cause of the problem with the symptoms of the problem, understand the biological purpose of that program, and therefore I could switch that off.

Okay, so you can, I mean, and you can, you can do this with pretty much, I mean, I, I had after another long story, but I had rheumatoid arthritis in my left arm and I could switch it off like a light switch. In fact, I got to the point where I didn't even have to talk to my subconscious mind. I just had to give my arm the look and I could switch rheumatoid arthritis off like a light switch.

It sounds insane, right? But when you learn, when you learn what Dr. Hamer has left behind in terms of nature's design, It's a survival biological program. The different life events that trigger different changes in our biology, whether it's from a runny nose, a sore throat, a breast cancer, a testicular cancer, a lung cancer, or whatever it is, when you understand the connections between what happens in life, you're no different.

You're in a car, right? If you see a danger ahead of you, you've got two choices, right? You put your foot on the brake, you put your foot on the accelerator, right? You're changing your modality of travel in order to avoid a danger in life, right? It's no different for us when we. When we hit headwinds or we go through some form of life challenge  or emotional trauma that basically changes the environment that we're in, okay, then nature will respond by either increasing or decreasing our capacity in order to help to solve the problem.

It's no different from a woman's menstrual cycle, right? In a woman's menstrual cycle, basically what happens in the first half of her cycle, tissue is added to the walls of the uterus in order to facilitate a pregnancy. If she doesn't get pregnant, then basically that tissue will be removed with bleeding.

Okay, so tissue's added, tissue's removed. Tissue's added, tissue's removed. It's there for a biological purpose. It's there to facilitate reproduction. Okay, every cell in our body works exactly the same way. Tissue's either added and then it's removed, or it's removed and it's added, based on what we need to do or what nature needs to do to modulate our capacity, to increase our capacity in times of trouble.

So that it can help us to overcome that problem. But then after that, it has to, capacity has to go back to normal. And pretty much that's what we call sickness, or that's what we call disease. But when you understand why it happened, how it happened, number one, you can trigger the healing of that much quicker and basically you don't sit there in fear.

I've got this disease and oh, it's gonna, it's gonna kill me. It's like some roving army inside me, like cancer's gonna go around me like this, right? All rubbish. It's totally impossible. In our lifetime, nature will never make a single mistake. The only thing is we don't understand it.

Dr David Lemmon- So, as far as therapy goes, you can go through talk therapy, hypnosis, EFT, tapping, kind of any modality that will help correct that psychological trauma. If you can't fix the original problem, if your son has already died, you're not In the reproductive years anymore. You can't have another child. So you have to go to plan B to just heal the trauma as best you can. Am I understanding? 

Danny Carroll- Once you understand that the most critical piece of the puzzle that we're missing basically is the cause of the problem and the connections between the life event, how it hits our brain, and what signals our brain send to our body in order to be able to modulate capacity to increase or decrease based on the challenge that we're facing, right?

Once you understand those data points, number one, fear You've gone, okay? If you start to feel a lump in your breast, well, you've got to sit there and say, okay, what next conflict have I had that could trigger a lump in my breast and how do I solve that? How do I practically solve that problem? Okay?

You're not sitting there going, Oh God, I've got a lump in my breast and then I'm going to start running around and saying, Oh, I've got breast cancer and whatever I mean. So knowledge is your most critical asset to help you understand. Practically what you need to do, solve the problem. Now, there, there are many modalities right now, once you understand the cause of the problem EFT, for example, has integrated Germanic healing knowledge into EFT, though EFT practitioners are now being taught Germanic healing knowledge and then using EFT in, in terms of part of the solution to help solve the problem.

So you can, whether you, you use, we all have different modalities, whether it's meditation, whether it's EFT, whether it's Bach flower remedies, whatever is nutritional healing. I mean, there are so many tools that we can put into our toolkit that can help us to solve many problems.

But keep focus on Understanding the life cause of a problem and what the biological purpose of what your body is trying to do in order to help you to solve that problem. Once you make those two connections, then you're at peace, right? And you've got to just, then you've just got to use your, use your nows, right?

Say, okay, how do I, this has happened because I faced this life challenge. How do I solve it? Right. And then, your focus becomes much clearer. You can only, yeah, we're in, we're in business and in healing. Right. I mean, on day one of business, we're taught you can only ever solve any problem in life by addressing the cause of the problem.

You can never address, you can never solve any problem in life by addressing the symptom. Okay. Those same rules apply in business and in health. Okay, every, every symptom we have in every, every change in our biology from a runny nose to cancer basically is a symptom of the problem. It's your body responding and reacting in order to increase your capacity or decrease your capacity in order to help to solve the problem.

Okay, all these knots that came in my body, the biological purpose of that was to basically stop me running in the wrong direction in life, right? Why was I running in the wrong direction? I was planning to terminate my relationship with my soulmate. Right, who's now my wife. So nature definitely knows best when I, when I stopped going down that path of trying to terminate the relationship, boom,  the knots just disappeared, right?

So when you understand what's happening in your body, what's triggering it, and then you can work out practical ways in order to solve the problem. problem. I mean, once you have the knowledge, I mean, it costs you nothing, right? I mean, that's part of, part of the problem with these medical discoveries is if everybody knew life because of their problem and how to solve that problem, then basically, I mean, there would be no medicine, right?

That's the problem. That's the issue. Now one more, one more extraordinary discovery. Dr. Hamer had a patient in the early 2000s who was a music professor. She came to him for consultations, but she had her own health challenges. She started doing research on music therapy and discovered that This is another long story, but basically that many Western classical music pieces followed exactly the same pattern as Dr.

Hamer's, what he called the second law of two phases, the second biological law, the Germanic healing knowledge. Okay. Long story short, many years of research, what they discovered between Dr. Hamer and Doc and professor Giovanna Conti is that if, if you play music at 432 Hertz and the music is written in accordance with the Fon sequence and the golden ratio, which you can look into,  we're not gonna sit and discuss.

Now those two facts together basically create a magical healing effect. And Dr. Hamer basically used healing music that he wrote for his wife in 1976 on their 20th wedding anniversary. Dr. Professor Conti discovered that this fell into that pattern and that basically he spent the last seven years of his life healing children with Down syndrome.

And autism, basically by using this music therapy, so you get  a child with Down syndrome. With Down syndrome, what Dr. Hamer discovered is that Down syndrome, I think is genetic and this and that, whatever, right? Not, not correct. Basically what happens is Down syndrome is triggered by what Dr. Hamer called  a double hearing conflict, right? Both hearing centers are shut down. And this basically happens in the first trimester of pregnancy. And when Dr. Hamer started speaking to the mothers of these children, I mean, the type of noises that triggered this hearing conflict to a child In utero, basically, chainsaws, dentist drills, home improvements, drills at home, basically the sound of a drill or a dentist drill to a two month, a two month fetus, basically is the same as a, as a lion roaring behind us.

And that basically puts the child in utero into fight or flight. And if this happens twice in the first trimester of pregnancy, it shuts both hearing centers down, and, and then that, retards the development process, and basically the child is then born with Down syndrome. Okay, Dr. Hamer took this healing music and, and he helped hundreds of children with Down syndrome basically gave them this, this healing music.

You expose them 24 7 to this healing music, and the children with Down syndrome, autism, all forms of cancers, basically pull out of, of those, of those conditions. I mean, his medical discoveries, Doctor, are truly, truly mind-blowingly extraordinary. But most of it's been buried, right? 

Dr David Lemmon- So, 1 of the last questions I have right now, that's kind of weighing on my mind is, is if people don't have access to Dr. Hamer's body of knowledge, is there a way to work out on a 1 to 1 basis of, I was just diagnosed with pancreatic cancer. What is the biological, if they don't understand. What's the biological function of the pancreas? What's the symbolic function of the pancreas? How do I figure that out? Is there a way to work that out personally, individually, or do you have to research in a book or online? What is that pancreatic cancer meaning? 

Danny Carroll- So I've made the process relatively simple. What  I've spent many years doing. you know, going down rabbit holes and trying to find as many resources as I can on this subject. So what I've done on my website, Doctor, I put a resource page that gives my 12 years of research that will give you a one stop shop to find every resource available on this subject, or at least every resource that I've been able to find in the last 12 years.

I've also put up if you're comfortable to sign up to my website I've put a download of a 400 page book that, that summarizes Dr. Hamer's entire medical discoveries so that you can, if you have pancreatic cancer, you just go into the book, put in a search bar, put pancreas and it will take you to the section in the book on pancreatic cancer.

So the entire body of work has been summarized and I've put the book up. So if you, if you come and join me on the journey you'll get two things. That's this book that summarizes Dr. Hamer's entire body of work. You know, I've also put a, a one year MP3 course. So basically, we're trying to find innovative ways for people to learn about these medical discoveries.

So one of my colleagues in India recorded hundreds of daily six to seven minute MP3 blips that you get delivered to your inbox at six o'clock every morning. So you can start your day off with some sage learning. And if you prefer, you can learn slowly over time. I tend to, I tend to, when I get onto something that excites me, I tend to want  to ravenously sort of consume as much content as I can.

 I'm in the process of building a members area on my website. And in that member's area, I put in 41 hours of training material. I'm about to start beta testing that. So if anybody would like to come in and beta test, help to beta test that website, it has two purposes. Number one, to provide structured training material, get you a long way up, up the learning curve.

But  the second purpose is basically it's going to be what I call an author community. Okay. Now this book. This is my first book that I published. This won the 2023 Global Book Awards in the category of medical books. But this is only an introduction to Dr. Hamer's medical discoveries.

Okay. The body of work is vast. So what we need is we need one book on each subject. So if you have breast cancer, You have a book that talks only to that subject, okay, or do you have testicular cancer, or you've got IBS, or you've got dermatitis, or you've got  lung cancer, or whatever the problem is. So what I'm doing is I'm building an author community to write a 500 plus book series, one on each disease so that each of these books are written.

So that anybody with no prior knowledge of medicine, no prior knowledge of Germanic healing knowledge, no prior knowledge of naturopathy or anything, can pick this book up. They're thin. Right each book is tiny, it's designed to be about a one hour read, so you can pick it up and all it tells you is the cause of a problem and how to fix it, okay, so it doesn't go into the, the, the complex depths of embryology and those type of issues, it says breast cancer, if it's a mammary gland breast cancer, it's a nest conflict, these are examples of nest conflict, this is what causes it and this is how you fix it, and it's designed to be that simple.

Okay. So hopefully there will be a library of these books. And my expectation, Doctor, is that these books will become, probably not for our generation, but maybe for the next generation  the books  of healing and medicine. Let's see. I mean, I've got five books so far. I've got another 490 odds to write. There's a lot to do

Dr David Lemmon- little by little by little. So yeah, I love getting to the root cause. That's beautiful. And I love just the,  one of the first tenants of naturopathic medicine is first do no harm. And I just love that this is an absolutely harmless form of medicine. Like you cannot hurt yourself by thinking about your thinking and thinking about your traumas and trying to heal your traumas.

It's just pure healing, whether, whether your cancer reverses or not, there's absolutely no harm that can ever come from it. So I think everyone who's ever diagnosed with cancer should go through this as a matter of course, and it can only do good. Right. 

Danny Carroll- Yeah, no, absolutely. And I mean look at this way. I mean, I've pulled out various Cancer research studies on our existing system. In cancer , the death rates are in excess of 98%, right? Now in one of Dr. Hamer's prosecutions they subpoenaed six and a half thousand of his patient records and called up all of his patients personally.

And discovered that 92 percent of those patients, most of whom had already been sent home to die by medical doctors, 92 percent of those doctors were not their own 90 of those patients were not only. alive, but they were in full health. Right? So the difference in survival rates in the system is a 92 percent survival rate versus a 98 percent death rate.

So, but the problem is that these medical discoveries have been essentially buried and hidden and hidden very deeply. Because Dr. Hamer estimated that when this information  becomes mainstream, that 95 percent of all symptomatic treatment protocols will become obsolete. If, if you know how to fix a problem yourself, you don't need to go to somebody else to fix it.

So it will kill, destroy trillions of dollars of pharmaceutical revenues. And unfortunately, nobody's prepared to bail that cat. I've now spent 12 years testing Dr. Hamer's modalities. I'm very cynical. I don't believe anything that anybody tells me until I test it myself. And I strongly recommend that everybody take the same stance.

But I've spent the last 12 years testing these modalities, and they are the philosopher's stone of healing. Truly extraordinary. 

Dr David Lemmon- So we have incredible Case studies and testimonials. Do you know if there's any published research on this type of work yet as far as PubMed and the conventional research studies?

Danny Carroll- Absolutely not a snowball's chance in hell that's ever going to happen, right? Yeah. No way. Dr. Hamer did go to, he's listed a whole bunch of universities who tested his modality and signed off on it. And there's, there's, there's many organizations and institutions that signed off on it, but basically it's all been buried, right?

Because the powers to be decided if the information got out but people don't realize . Dr. Hamer was a meticulous researcher. And, and he, and he meticulously recorded, but all of the, all of the authorities that basically stopped his medical discoveries from being shared with the masses.

And they used them themselves, right? So the, The elites use these medical discoveries and their cancer death rates when Dr. Hamer, Dr. Hamer's published all this information, right, their cancer death rates like 21 in a million where in, at the same, in the same reporting period, 2, 683 in Germany and 2, 522 average in Europe, right?

So the elites use this, these medical discoveries for themselves, but they just make sure that we don't get access to it. So in the same way we have two systems of justice, we also have two systems of medicine. So the people in, you know, in the elites basically use this medical system to heal themselves.

And then they use conventional medicine that has a 98 percent death rate. For people like us.

Dr David Lemmon- Danny, it's been amazing. It's been a pleasure talking with you and hearing your story. Tell people your website, where can they contact you if they want to learn more? 

Danny Carroll-  My name is Danny Carroll and it's the Irish spelling. And w,here am I? It's going to appear here,  So it's C-A-R-R-O-L-L.

My website is danny-carroll.com. If you can, you can sign up and get a free 400 page book and a free one year course. The resource page is up there. All of these books are up there to read for free. You can go to the brand I'm building called the Healing Tribune. Cause of disease is simple.

There's a tab on my website called the Healing Tribune. All of the books that are currently written and will be written will all be available for free to read. So all of these books are up on my website to read for free. You can go to Amazon. This is my flagship book, Terminal Cancer Is a Misdiagnosis.

This won the 2023 Global Book Awards in the category of medical books bestsellers on Amazon. You can, this is an introduction to Dr. Hamer's medical discoveries. This is the best place to start if you want to just start learning about it. And it's less than a two hour read.

Dr David Lemmon- Thank you so much. 

Danny Carroll- Thank you, doctor. 

Dr David Lemmon- Amazing speaking with you, have a beautiful night. 

Danny Carroll- Thank you, doctor. It's been an absolute pleasure. Thank you so much.